Comments on: edward cullen is a creep, and other thoughts on twilight

By: srdailey

srdailey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:15:09 +0000

i’m trying to rack my brain. troll 2? the room? but those are awesomely bad movies that are fun because they’re so terrible. i think the VAST amount of twilight fans aren’t enjoying them ironically. again, i’m not talking about the books. whatsoever. i’m talking about the movie, which is arguably pretty damn terrible.

point break and tombstone are the obvious analogs from my list of favorites. but those are still well made movies that happen to have some cheesy dialog or silly scenes.

By: Jenn Kriscunas

Jenn Kriscunas — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:15:02 +0000

“I like the normal-girl-gets-unattainable-hot-boy aspect, which is what I think most women respond to on a basic level with regard to this story. Wanting the boy you can’t have in high school is a nearly universal experience.”

Thank you, Monica.
SEE, DAILEY, I TOLD YOU.

By: srdailey

srdailey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:07:48 +0000

and thus, i will never understand women.

By: monica

monica — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:05:49 +0000

I never said it was good, I just said there was something people like about it.
Isn’t there anything comparable in your pop-culture wheelhouse that you like even though you know it sucks?

By: monica

monica — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:03:58 +0000

I like vampires. Can’t it just be that simple?
Ok, and I like their crazyass superpowers (sparkling notwithstanding) and their struggle to be “good” even when their appetites are begging them and teasing them with a whole high school full of delicious teenagers to succumb and be “bad”. Last but not least, I like the normal-girl-gets-unattainable-hot-boy aspect, which is what I think most women respond to on a basic level with regard to this story. Wanting the boy you can’t have in high school is a nearly universal experience.

By: srdailey

srdailey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:00:41 +0000

also, wolverine x-men: origins made $178,000,000 at the box office. doesn’t mean it’s any good.

By: srdailey

srdailey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:58:56 +0000

but what is it about it specifically that you like? i’ve yet to hear that from anyone.

By: monica

monica — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:51:18 +0000

Yes, Edward Cullen IS a creep. Yes, the movie leaves a lot to be desired special effects-wise and dialogue-wise- but so does every movie in the Evil Dead series and I still love those movies. There is a difference between Twilight worship (which is what you’re complaining about, and ITA) and enjoying a cheesy franchise despite- or even because of- its faults.
These books were the stepping-stone for preteen K beginning to read longer books (Harry Potter was just not interesting to her, unfortunately) and not complaining about it. And we did have discussions about fantasy vs. reality and why Edward would not be a good real-life boyfriend, and whether Bella could have made different choices and what that might have changed about the story- because that’s what good parents do. I am thankful that K went from a reluctant reader to an avid reader unafraid of 500+ page books because of Twilight.
They are a guilty pleasure, nothing more, in my opinion, and the fact that so many people enjoy them can’t be discounted- there’s something there to like, despite the crazy amount of negativity that you and everyone else can point out about them.

By: srdailey

srdailey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:30:15 +0000

i just appreciate his fashion sense, not who he is.

By: jon

jon — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:27:51 +0000

…oh.

And the Harry Potter movies kick ass. Amazing cinematography, special effects, settings, lighting, music, costumes, choreography (for the fighting, flying, etc), and the characters, while pretty one dimensional and caught in a very simple conflict, ARE stand up role models.